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Re: [Clamav-users] The EOL tweets
From: Jim Preston <jimlinux_at_nospam>Date: Fri Apr 16 2010 - 18:34:56 GMT
To: ClamAV users ML <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net>
On Apr 16, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Simon Hobson wrote:
> Jerry wrote:
>
>> So, rather than update ClamAV and/or their OS, which in the
>> majority of
>> cases would involve no monetary expense, users will purchase new
>> servers and flock en masse to Microsoft, spend thousands more on
>> Microsoft Windows Server 2010, Exchange, etc and learn new skills to
>> administer said network. Could I ask you a personal question; are you
>> on drugs and if so, can I have some because that is one hell of a
>> trip
>> you are on?
>
> You really think they don't do that ? In the real world, PHBs all
> over do take just that sort of decision - how else do you think MS
> got where they are.
Yes and they get exactly what the deserve and PAY for when they
switch.......
>
>> Furthermore, why wouldn't these <quote>small companies running their
>> crappy and old mailing systems</quote> install updated versions of
>> the
>> OS, etc they all ready have installed?
>
> In many cases, they will have systems that were installed for them
> some time ago, and that they no longer have paid support for. When
> it "dies" they'll go to someone to "fix it" - and lets face it,
> there are a lot more outfits that will tell them they need an
> Exchange server than there are that will tell them it's an easy fix.
>
> I've seen it more than once. IN fact, I was thinking about the mail
> server at my last job as I wrote the previous paragraph - then
> thought I ought to warn the guy left to run it - and then remembered
> that it dies a while ago with a disk failure and they switched to
> using hosted Exchange. So yes, a real example where they decided to
> replace the free and functional software with something they pay for
> and which does less.
>
> That's PHBs for you. Weird, but believe me, it happens - and
> incidentally, guess what my current employer loves to sell :-/
>
>
> Eric Rostetter wrote:
>
>>> At no point have I seen anything in the logs on my servers to say
>>> it was going to be turned off. Like many others, the first I knew
>>> was when I got to work this morning and the server wasn't working.
>>
>> Because they should have obviously jumped in the way-back-machine
>> and changed the 5 year old software you use to warn you about a
>> future
>> event that wasn't known 5 years ago?
>>
>> Or because they should have hacked into your machine and placed the
>> notice
>> there for you?
>>
>> Or should they have gone personally to your house last night and
>> knocked
>> on your door to tell you?
>
> Or they could have put it on their website at the one page that does
> appear in the log - but they didn't put it on the FAQ page at all.
> As it happens, I **HAVE** been to the FAQ page in the last few
> months and had it been there like it is on the front page then I
> would have seen it.
>
> So in that respect, a very simple edit to the website could have
> made a significant difference - I doubt I'm alone.
>
>
> Jason Bertoch <jason@i6ix.com> wrote:
>
>> It's broke
>
> It is now
>
>> please go fix it.
>
> I will, now I know about it. But it would have been nice to do it at
> a more convenient time, and with advance notice so I could use it to
> get some resource allocated by management.
>
> --
> Simon Hobson
>
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