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>> BTW - why is this news? it has been known for long:
>> I think the problem here is network security folks don't understand
>> this stuff at all.
> Fair enough. Still, I expect at least the websecurity mailing list to
> give credit where credit is due...
Just to clarify - I meant "mailing list" as in "mailing list subscribers". I did not mean "mailing list admin". The websecurity moderation is conducted solely for generally keeoing the discussion on topic, and with no attempt (I think) in general to verify the accuracy of the materials nor their novelty. And I respect that.