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Re: [Full-disclosure] [inbox] Re: Supporters urge halt to, hacker's, extradition to US

From: n3td3v <xploitable_at_nospam>
Date: Tue Sep 30 2008 - 18:48:51 GMT
To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk, n3td3v <n3td3v@googlegroups.com>, info@freegary.org.uk


On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Exibar <exibar@thelair.com> wrote:
> Look, Mckinnon broke into the computer systems.

He never broke in, the door was open, he walked in.

> Under his own admission he ran scripts to help him do this. Some of those scripts crashed systems. He
> possibly deleted files and what-not in his travels, either willfully or not,
> doesn't really matter. He loaded software on those systems so he could get
> in AGAIN easier... AND he leaves a note threatening that he will do it
> again.
>

Proof or GTFO.

> All this on KNOWN government computer systems. He intentionally wanted to
> get into these systems to look for UFO crap.
>

He walked in, because the systems were 'public domain', he didn't break in to anything.

> This goes way beyond just simply leaving a note stating that your door is
> unlocked. This is going into the unlocked car, putting in a remote control
> door opener, and threatening to re-enter the car again.
>

The systems were 'public domain' because the door was open.

> He knew what he was doing, he knew who's machines he was doing it to, he
> was obviously going to keep doing it until caught by the sound of his
> message.
>

The systems were 'public domain' because the door was open.

> He's a criminal, period. He should be properly tried in a court of law.
> The way the UK an dthe US law is written, that means extradited to the US
> for a trial.
>

The systems were 'public domain' because the door was open.

> All the protesting or debating won't change the fact that he's a criminal.
> Plain and simple, deal with it.... His sentence will be based upon what
> comes up in court, and it hardly ever is the maximum.
>
> Exibar
>

The systems were 'public domain' because the door was open.



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