[Full-disclosure] "Andrew A" -> Benjamin Trott, Six Apart/Live Journal hacker, and belligerent anti-gay remarks?

From: Kristian Erik Hermansen <kristian.hermansen_at_nospam>
Date: Tue Feb 12 2008 - 08:13:30 GMT
To: full-disclosure@lists.grok.org.uk

After the recent death of Justin Polazzo -- a dude who I only corresponded with over the net -- I noticed another post from "Andrew A", which touted some horrible remarks. I don't know who "Andrew A" is, but he and I have had a running conversation publicly and privately. He has proven to be quite immature. I can offer some knowledge that he has provided to me privately to point at who it might be, but I make no guarantee to who the individual is. It is merely from his mouth. He wanted to meet me at the art gatherings in San Francisco's 20GOTO10, and give me a piece of his mind. He called me a "pussy faggot" when I did not attend Christopher Abad's showing of ASCII art on those dates.

Following is some insight that may help some people on this list track down who this "Andrew A" is. It is a very sad day when we lose someone in real life and we must all rethink what is happening in our security community when people take pride in laughing at such loss of life. The Internet may just be the flicking of electrons passing around in an invisible flux, but the people at the edge of our networks are real. We must treat them with the same respect we would treat others with in person. We must forgive. We must forget. We must do our best to unite our communities rather than divide them. We have all made our own mistakes in the past, so let's continue our journey with a new goal -- that of trying to be good to one another in real life and online, despite its virtualness. We must do that. I have hope that we can accomplish decency online...

http://www.kristian-hermansen.com/wordpress/2008/02/11/benjamin-trott-and-belligerent-anti-gay-remarks/

Benjamin Trott is an American entrepreneur living in California. He is known for co-founding Six Apart (6 Apart, or 6A), which later purchased Live Journal. However, online, it appears that he may be acting under a pseudonym as "Andrew A" (gluttony@gmail.com, gluttony).

It all started back in December in San Francisco. An observation of mine regarding fetching favicon images in certain contexts, which many people I have spoken to consider a bug in some web browsers, turned into a flame-war on the full disclosure list and many accusations were flying. However, the discussion continued off-list privately where "Andrew A" continued with belligerent and even anti-gay remarks. It is just disgusting that someone of this stature would expend so much energy and hatred. I just want it to stop, but this person, whom I believe is Benjamin Trott, continues to harass me and it is unwarranted. Please stop and grow up "Andrew A" (gluttony@gmail.com).

The purported "Andrew A" claims to live at this residence, perhaps with his wife Mena G. Trott:
4338 26th street, San Francisco, CA

His phone number appears to be (415) 821-2073. "Andrew A" should just quit this silliness and apologize. I felt the need to post this information in the case that others have been harassed by this individual.

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I live out of Orange County but I visit the bay for business and pleasure. No way am I gonna roll to Baysec or Berksec though. Do I look like a clueless wannabe faggot like you?

I may be at the 20goto10 ansi show, but I'll definitely be at the buttes 20goto10 show. See you there. I'll introduce myself. """

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I didnt see you at either 20goto10 show. pussy faggot.

4338 26th street, san francisco

ask for ben.

fuck you.
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That's my residence. I'm Ben. :D

On Feb 10, 2008 2:32 PM, Kristian Erik Hermansen < kristian.hermansen@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 10, 2008 11:00 AM, Andrew A wrote:
> > I didnt see you at either 20goto10 show. pussy faggot.
>
> Chill out buddy. Way to hold a grudge. I was at Baysec, along with
> Nate Lawson some Cloudmark guys and others. Where were you? :-)
>
> > 4338 26th street, san francisco
>
> And is this your residence or work?
>
> > ask for ben.
>
> Ben who?
>
> > fuck you.
>
> Right¡you are so eloquent¡
> ¨C
> Kristian Erik Hermansen
> "Know something about everything and everything about something."
""" -- Kristian Erik Hermansen "Know something about everything and everything about something."

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